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Jim Crockett Jr. On His Battles With Vince McMahon vis-à-vis Jim Crockett Promotions

Jim Crockett, Jr and Vince McMahonJim Crockett Jr. says “We were competing against Vince and his wife Linda. She is brilliant, and she helped run the business. But we were competitors. We did things, they’d copy it. They’d do things, we’d copy it. Vince tried to steal talent, and he stole some good talent from us.”

 

Long before AEW, or even WCW, there was Jim Crockett Promotions competing against WWE for supremacy in the world of professional wrestling. Led by Jim Crockett Jr., who took over the family business after his father passed away in 1973, JCP presented the most complete wrestling product in the 1980s until it was sold to Ted Turner in 1988.

Jim Crockett Jr

Crockett also served three terms as president of the NWA, the governing body of pro wrestling, while battling Vince McMahon’s World Wrestling Federation in pursuit of becoming wrestling’s signature promotion across the nation.

Crockett and his brother David were part of the latest weekend’s Starrcast event in Baltimore, Maryland. Run by Conrad Thompson, Starrcast also includes a Great Muta panel, a conversation between Jon Moxley and Jim Ross, as well as interviews with Cody Rhodes and the Young Bucks.

Crockett has been out of wrestling since 1994, but his parting gift to the business was opening a new company—the short-lived World Wrestling Network in 1993. Although the promotion did not succeed, the visionary he had hired, Paul Heyman, went on to set the wrestling world aflame.

Jim Crockett Sr Memorial Cup Winners Dusty Rhodes and Nikita
Jim Crockett Sr Memorial Cup Winners Dusty Rhodes and Nikita

“I’m a huge fan of Paul’s work,” said Crockett, now 75. “The stuff he did in Philadelphia was violent but it told a story. He’s smart and good with talent. I was very happy he was appointed as head of the Monday show.”

Highlighting the Crocketts at Starrcast is fitting, especially with All Elite Wrestling running its “Full Gear” pay-per-view in Baltimore on Saturday.

“There are still people on the AEW production crew that worked with me in WCW,” said David Crockett, Jim’s brother and a top executive during his time with Jim Crockett Promotions. “It’s made me think about that adrenaline rush we’d feel before going live on TBS at 6:05.”

Based out of the Mid-Atlantic, Jim Crockett Promotions once represented McMahon’s premiere opponent. While McMahon’s product was built on glitz and glamour, JCP stood for its old-school nature, focused on the wrestlers in the ring, featuring some of the best matches and ring psychology in the world each week on TBS.

Jim Crockett Snr and Jim Crockett Jr
Jim Crockett Snr and Jim Crockett Jr

McMahon and Crockett, both sons of wrestling promoters, saw the opportunity in the 1980s to expand their family-run, territorial promotions across the nation.

“Sports were growing and we decided that we’d grow, too,” said Crockett. “Wrestling added a lot of production value to it. From the business aspect, I wasn’t that good. But [lead booker] George Scott and I believed in the same thing: a battle of good versus evil.”

Crockett built his roster around a charismatic star that McMahon wanted but, up until that point, had not been able to land: “The Nature Boy” Ric Flair.

“Verne Gagne didn’t want him, we took him, and the rest is history,” said Gagne. “Ric is one of the greatest workers in the history of the business. He had showmanship, pizzazz, and he was a master of crowd psychology. You had to know what you were doing to know what he did.

Jim Crockett Promotions logo

“Back then, it wasn’t highspot after highspot. It was the wrestlers showing off their wrestling ability. Ric could take bumps with the best of them, but he also knew how to work a match. So did the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express and Magnum T.A. They gave people their money’s worth, and a story was also told.”

Competing against McMahon was an uphill battle, and there were other complicating factors for Crockett.

“We weren’t just competing against Vince,” explained Crockett. “We were competing against Vince and his wife Linda. She is brilliant, and she helped run the business. But we were competitors. We did things, they’d copy it. They’d do things, we’d copy it. Vince tried to steal talent, and he stole some good talent from us.”

JCP appeared to be a legitimate contender to become king during wrestling’s national expansion in the 1980s. It operated as the largest member of the National Wrestling Alliance, where Crockett sat as a three-term president.

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“Three terms as NWA President, that was a babysitting job,” said Crockett. “Back in those days, no one wanted to lose [their match]. Every promoter was trying to screw the other one, and that was spread out all over the country.”

McMahon did not take his competition lightly. In addition to acquiring talent from Crockett’s roster, the WWF and JCP competed directly against one another—something of a precursor to the “Monday Night Wars”—on Thanksgiving night in 1987.

Crockett ran his Starrcade pay-per-view, and McMahon responded by threatening pay-per-view distributors that those who aired Starrcade would lose the right to run WrestleMania IV the following March. McMahon then went a step further, airing his own pay-per-view, the first-ever Survivor Series, against Starrcade ’87, which included a five-on-five match that featured Hulk Hogan in the ring again against Andre The Giant.

Jim Crockett Jr

“In ’87, we had no qualms about moving forward and competing with Vince,” said Crockett. “But Vince was paying people, we tried to keep up, and that’s one of the areas where we got caught.”

McMahon continued to hinder Crockett’s chance at building an audience on pay-per-view. JCP’s next pay-per-view, Bunkhouse Stampede, aired in January of 1988. McMahon did not air his own pay-per-view that night, choosing instead to run a free show—the first-ever Royal Rumble—on television.

McMahon considerably hurt the Crockett profit margin, though there was some, albeit brief, revenge.

“On Vince’s WrestleMania IV pay-per-view, we went on TBS and had a Clash of the Champions special,” said Crockett, referring to a phenomenal show that featured Flair and Sting wrestling to a draw for the NWA title. “There were no commercials during the wrestling, and we got great TV ratings.”

Jim Crockett Jr. Interview

The celebration for the Crocketts was short-lived.

“The next day, I get a call from Ted Turner,” said Crockett, referring to the owner of TBS–and the man who later bought the company from Crockett and rebranded it as WCW. “Ted saw me in his office and told me to never do that again. His partners in that world were the cable companies, and by airing that show against Vince, it meant money out of the pockets from the cable companies. So we never did that again.”

By November of 1988, on the brink of bankruptcy, Crockett sold the promotion—which had operated under his family name since 1931—to Turner.

“We had built a television show and advertising flow, but we didn’t manage cash flow and we couldn’t factor our time sales,” said Crockett. “That’s why we started morphing toward Turner.”

Crockett was asked about the possibility of selling JCP to McMahon, but quickly noted that Turner was adamantly against it.

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“We originally would have sold to Vince, but Turner said no,” said Crockett. “Back in those days, Ted Turner was the Hoover vacuum cleaner. Anything that could work on his shows, he wanted to own it.”

More than three decades after the sale to Turner, the Crockett name and legacy still lives and breathes in pro wrestling.

“We presented pro wrestling differently than McMahon,” said Crockett. “It was believable violence. I’m not disappointed that I left wrestling, but it makes you feel good when people remember. I can’t tell you how much that means.”

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Jim Crockett Jr. Discusses His Battles With Vince McMahon vis-à-vis Jim Crockett Promotions

Jim Crockett, Jr and Vince McMahonJim Crockett Jr. says “We were competing against Vince and his wife Linda. She is brilliant, and she helped run the business. But we were competitors. We did things, they’d copy it. They’d do things, we’d copy it. Vince tried to steal talent, and he stole some good talent from us.”

 

Long before AEW, or even WCW, there was Jim Crockett Promotions competing against WWE for supremacy in the world of professional wrestling. Led by Jim Crockett Jr., who took over the family business after his father passed away in 1973, JCP presented the most complete wrestling product in the 1980s until it was sold to Ted Turner in 1988.

Jim Crockett Jr

Crockett also served three terms as president of the NWA, the governing body of pro wrestling, while battling Vince McMahon’s World Wrestling Federation in pursuit of becoming wrestling’s signature promotion across the nation.

Crockett and his brother David were part of the latest weekend’s Starrcast event in Baltimore, Maryland. Run by Conrad Thompson, Starrcast also includes a Great Muta panel, a conversation between Jon Moxley and Jim Ross, as well as interviews with Cody Rhodes and the Young Bucks.

Crockett has been out of wrestling since 1994, but his parting gift to the business was opening a new company—the short-lived World Wrestling Network in 1993. Although the promotion did not succeed, the visionary he had hired, Paul Heyman, went on to set the wrestling world aflame.

Jim Crockett Sr Memorial Cup Winners Dusty Rhodes and Nikita
Jim Crockett Sr Memorial Cup Winners Dusty Rhodes and Nikita

“I’m a huge fan of Paul’s work,” said Crockett, now 75. “The stuff he did in Philadelphia was violent but it told a story. He’s smart and good with talent. I was very happy he was appointed as head of the Monday show.”

Highlighting the Crocketts at Starrcast is fitting, especially with All Elite Wrestling running its “Full Gear” pay-per-view in Baltimore on Saturday.

“There are still people on the AEW production crew that worked with me in WCW,” said David Crockett, Jim’s brother and a top executive during his time with Jim Crockett Promotions. “It’s made me think about that adrenaline rush we’d feel before going live on TBS at 6:05.”

Based out of the Mid-Atlantic, Jim Crockett Promotions once represented McMahon’s premiere opponent. While McMahon’s product was built on glitz and glamour, JCP stood for its old-school nature, focused on the wrestlers in the ring, featuring some of the best matches and ring psychology in the world each week on TBS.

Jim Crockett Snr and Jim Crockett Jr
Jim Crockett Snr and Jim Crockett Jr

McMahon and Crockett, both sons of wrestling promoters, saw the opportunity in the 1980s to expand their family-run, territorial promotions across the nation.

“Sports were growing and we decided that we’d grow, too,” said Crockett. “Wrestling added a lot of production value to it. From the business aspect, I wasn’t that good. But [lead booker] George Scott and I believed in the same thing: a battle of good versus evil.”

Crockett built his roster around a charismatic star that McMahon wanted but, up until that point, had not been able to land: “The Nature Boy” Ric Flair.

“Verne Gagne didn’t want him, we took him, and the rest is history,” said Gagne. “Ric is one of the greatest workers in the history of the business. He had showmanship, pizzazz, and he was a master of crowd psychology. You had to know what you were doing to know what he did.

Jim Crockett Promotions logo

“Back then, it wasn’t highspot after highspot. It was the wrestlers showing off their wrestling ability. Ric could take bumps with the best of them, but he also knew how to work a match. So did the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express and Magnum T.A. They gave people their money’s worth, and a story was also told.”

Competing against McMahon was an uphill battle, and there were other complicating factors for Crockett.

“We weren’t just competing against Vince,” explained Crockett. “We were competing against Vince and his wife Linda. She is brilliant, and she helped run the business. But we were competitors. We did things, they’d copy it. They’d do things, we’d copy it. Vince tried to steal talent, and he stole some good talent from us.”

JCP appeared to be a legitimate contender to become king during wrestling’s national expansion in the 1980s. It operated as the largest member of the National Wrestling Alliance, where Crockett sat as a three-term president.

Jim Cornette Legendary wrestling

“Three terms as NWA President, that was a babysitting job,” said Crockett. “Back in those days, no one wanted to lose [their match]. Every promoter was trying to screw the other one, and that was spread out all over the country.”

McMahon did not take his competition lightly. In addition to acquiring talent from Crockett’s roster, the WWF and JCP competed directly against one another—something of a precursor to the “Monday Night Wars”—on Thanksgiving night in 1987.

Crockett ran his Starrcade pay-per-view, and McMahon responded by threatening pay-per-view distributors that those who aired Starrcade would lose the right to run WrestleMania IV the following March. McMahon then went a step further, airing his own pay-per-view, the first-ever Survivor Series, against Starrcade ’87, which included a five-on-five match that featured Hulk Hogan in the ring again against Andre The Giant.

Jim Crockett Jr

“In ’87, we had no qualms about moving forward and competing with Vince,” said Crockett. “But Vince was paying people, we tried to keep up, and that’s one of the areas where we got caught.”

McMahon continued to hinder Crockett’s chance at building an audience on pay-per-view. JCP’s next pay-per-view, Bunkhouse Stampede, aired in January of 1988. McMahon did not air his own pay-per-view that night, choosing instead to run a free show—the first-ever Royal Rumble—on television.

McMahon considerably hurt the Crockett profit margin, though there was some, albeit brief, revenge.

“On Vince’s WrestleMania IV pay-per-view, we went on TBS and had a Clash of the Champions special,” said Crockett, referring to a phenomenal show that featured Flair and Sting wrestling to a draw for the NWA title. “There were no commercials during the wrestling, and we got great TV ratings.”

Jim Crockett Jr. Interview

The celebration for the Crocketts was short-lived.

“The next day, I get a call from Ted Turner,” said Crockett, referring to the owner of TBS–and the man who later bought the company from Crockett and rebranded it as WCW. “Ted saw me in his office and told me to never do that again. His partners in that world were the cable companies, and by airing that show against Vince, it meant money out of the pockets from the cable companies. So we never did that again.”

By November of 1988, on the brink of bankruptcy, Crockett sold the promotion—which had operated under his family name since 1931—to Turner.

“We had built a television show and advertising flow, but we didn’t manage cash flow and we couldn’t factor our time sales,” said Crockett. “That’s why we started morphing toward Turner.”

Crockett was asked about the possibility of selling JCP to McMahon, but quickly noted that Turner was adamantly against it.

Jim Crockett Jr andf AWA HeavyWeight Champion

“We originally would have sold to Vince, but Turner said no,” said Crockett. “Back in those days, Ted Turner was the Hoover vacuum cleaner. Anything that could work on his shows, he wanted to own it.”

More than three decades after the sale to Turner, the Crockett name and legacy still lives and breathes in pro wrestling.

“We presented pro wrestling differently than McMahon,” said Crockett. “It was believable violence. I’m not disappointed that I left wrestling, but it makes you feel good when people remember. I can’t tell you how much that means.”

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Health Update on NWA Legend Bobby Fulton Following Hospitalization

Health Update on NWA Legend Bobby Fulton Following HospitalizationBobby Fulton, one-half of The Fantastics, has been hospitalized, according to his son, Dillon Hines. Fulton was diagnosed with throat cancer in December of 2019, and was declared cancer-free in June.

 

Unfortunately, Fulton is in the hospital due to the cancer returning. “This is Dillon Hines. I’m sadly informing you today that my father has been admitted to the hospital.

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He’s in poor condition. Please send positive thoughts and prayers for him. … The cancer has returned to a different part of dad’s throat. We will need a lot of prayers.

This is Dillon Hines. I’m sadly informing you today that my father has been admitted to the hospital. He’s in poor condition. Please send positive thoughts and prayers for him. Thanks!

The cancer has returned to a different part of dad’s throat. We will need a lot of prayers. Thanks!

Bobby Fulton and Ricky Morton

update: Bobby Fulton was hospitalized

It was reported yesterday that Bobby Fulton was hospitalized, as his cancer had returned to another part of the throat.

Fulton’s son Dillon Hines said that his father is coping well following the surgery now and was able to talk with Jim Cornette after it was over.

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Bret Hart says José González, who stabbed and murdered Bruiser Brody was an easygoing guy

Bret Hart on the Murder and Influence of Bruiser Brody on Professional Wrestling“I had always been grateful to Bruiser Brody for bucking me up with some kind words during my first months on the road with the WWF when Chief was riding me.

 

 

In case you didn’t know

Frank Donald Goodish best known as Bruiser Brody died in 1988 from stab wounds suffered backstage in a shower during a wrestling event in Puerto Rico.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

The killer was José Huertas González, the wrestler known as Invader I. A jury acquitted González of murder, ruling that González killed Goodish in self-defense.

Bret Hart continues: The last time I’d seen him was during a chance meeting at the airport in Detroit.

André [the Giant] rode on those airport trolley carts that zip around inside the terminals, so Jim and I hopped on.

Coming around a corner, we ran into Brody, who laughed at the sight of us.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed ---- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser BrodyMy last memory of him was his wave and his smile.

On July 16th, Brody had been called into a dressing room in Puerto Rico by the booker, José González, who also wrestled under a mask as The Invader.

González, whom I remembered from my time in Puerto Rico as an easygoing guy, stabbed Brody with a butcher knife and left him to die on the dirty bathroom floor.Bret Hart on the Murder and Influence of Bruiser Brody on Professional Wrestling

 

Supposedly, Brody had been a bully to González in the ring one time too many, and González snapped. All the wrestlers were too scared to help Brody, so they sat there for over an hour while he died.

No wrestlers would testify against González because they were afraid that if they did, they wouldn’t live long enough to get off the island! González used self-defense as an argument and was acquitted.

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This was one of the most horrible things that ever happened in the wrestling business.”

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Bret Hart says José González, who stabbed and killed Bruiser Brody was an easygoing guy

Bret Hart on the Murder and Influence of Bruiser Brody on Professional Wrestling“I had always been grateful to Bruiser Brody for bucking me up with some kind words during my first months on the road with the WWF when Chief was riding me.

 

 

In case you didn’t know

Frank Donald Goodish best known as Bruiser Brody died in 1988 from stab wounds suffered backstage in a shower during a wrestling event in Puerto Rico.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

The killer was José Huertas González, the wrestler known as Invader I. A jury acquitted González of murder, ruling that González killed Goodish in self-defense.

Bret Hart continues: The last time I’d seen him was during a chance meeting at the airport in Detroit.

André [the Giant] rode on those airport trolley carts that zip around inside the terminals, so Jim and I hopped on.

Coming around a corner, we ran into Brody, who laughed at the sight of us.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed ---- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser BrodyMy last memory of him was his wave and his smile.

On July 16th, Brody had been called into a dressing room in Puerto Rico by the booker, José González, who also wrestled under a mask as The Invader.

González, whom I remembered from my time in Puerto Rico as an easygoing guy, stabbed Brody with a butcher knife and left him to die on the dirty bathroom floor.Bret Hart on the Murder and Influence of Bruiser Brody on Professional Wrestling

 

Supposedly, Brody had been a bully to González in the ring one time too many, and González snapped. All the wrestlers were too scared to help Brody, so they sat there for over an hour while he died.

No wrestlers would testify against González because they were afraid that if they did, they wouldn’t live long enough to get off the island! González used self-defense as an argument and was acquitted.

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This was one of the most horrible things that ever happened in the wrestling business.”

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BRUISER BRODY Stabbed to death: Full Details on his Murder — Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser BrodyJuly 17th, 1988, marks the anniversary of the death of Frank Goodish, a man better known to fans as Bruiser Brody. For years, controversy surrounded his murder.

 

With stories from the likes of Dutch Mantel and Savio Vega, both who were present during the time of Brody’s stabbing, it’s hard not to ask: was his murder a cover-up? We look closely into this while also celebrating his influence on professional wrestling.

Scott Hall and BRUISER BRODY

Was the Death Bruiser Brody a Cover-up?

Dutch Mantel, who was at the scene, writes what he saw that day:

“It is already known that José González was the man that stabbed and killed Bruiser Brody.

He pleaded self-defense, and partly due to a weak justice system in Puerto Rico, and partly due to the fact that nobody was at González’ trial on behalf of Brody, González was acquitted.BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

 

The controversy surrounds why the men that were subpoenaed never got to Puerto Rico to testify. Yes, it is true that certain wrestlers would not talk. But there were many who were very willing to talk.

Unfortunately, they never got their chance.

I arrived in Puerto Rico for a two-day run on a Saturday afternoon. After deplaning and collecting my bags, I made my way to the Lagoon el Canario, where I would be staying. The El Canario was a great hotel by Puerto Rican standards because they had cable with a remote and in-room air conditioning. That’s almost a luxury.

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I met Bruiser in the lobby of the hotel, where we were also to meet [Tony] Atlas. Bruiser told me that Tony had arranged a ride for the three of us with a guy who operated a local gym and who was a big wrestling fan.

After a few minutes, Atlas arrived, and we departed for Bayamon Loubriel Stadium around 6:00 PM. The trip takes about 20 minutes, so we were very early for the show.

Everything was fine; just small talk made in the car on the way over. We collected our bags from the trunk upon arrival, and entered the stadium,

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

headed for the dressing room. But, as we entered the dressing area, I felt tension in the air. I always felt tension in the air there, as it’s an extremely dangerous place to work. But that night it was really heavy. Don’t ask me why. I don’t even know. I just felt it.

As I entered, I was following Bruiser, and I noticed Carlos [Colon] and Invader [José González] sitting on a bench to my right. Invader was trying on his leather strap – that he wears on his arm – with his teeth. Neither spoke.

Thinking back on it now, I don’t believe any acknowledgment was made to Brody either. I followed Brody to the rear of the room, directly in front of the shower door.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

There were other guys who were already there. The Youngbloods, TNT, Roberto Soto, and Castillo Jr. were in various stages of unpacking and getting ready.

I have always hated the dressing rooms, so I sat down briefly and, still feeling uneasy about the tension that I felt, decided to go check the crowd. The is a ritual with me; I always check out the crowd or arena when I get there just to familiarize myself with it.

Bayamon Stadium is a baseball stadium, so I arose from my chair and headed through a tunnel to get to the field. It’s only about 100 feet through the tunnel, and I stood, watching the crowd file in for no more than three minutes, and I had not been gone from the dressing room longer than 5 or 6 minutes, at the most.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

But when I returned, my eyes met horror.

The whole dressing room was chaotic. The first person I saw was Chris Youngblood. I asked him what had happened. He was almost hysterical as he said, ‘José stabbed Brody.’

I still did not know what he meant, but as I looked deeper in the room, I saw Brody lying prone on the floor with several guys surrounding him. I thought that some guy named José had rushed into the room and attacked Brody. Everybody in PR is named José, so I looked at Chris again, and he said, ‘Invader – Invader stabbed Brody.’

 

It was bedlam in the dressing room. Now, everything started to move in slow motion. I remember walking over to where Brody was lying and just staring in disbelief. A doctor is always present in San Juan, and he was crying. Brody was conscious, and as I looked closer, I could see a stab wound about an inch long and deep with air bubbles escaping from it.

Much later, the doctor told me that meant that the blade had pierced the lung.

Brody was telling promoter Carlos Colon to take care of his family.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

I didn’t see a lot of blood, but, again, later, I learned that he was hemorrhaging internally.

I believe that Bruiser Brody knew he was going to die.

This can’t be happening, I thought to myself. This can’t be real. But real it was. I am not a very religious person, but I eased over in a corner out of everyone’s way and prayed for Bruiser. I then found myself looking through a plexiglass door which led into the shower.

The door was kind of translucent plexiglass that distorted images somewhat, but I saw the Invader and Victor Jovica screaming at each other in the shower room. Noise was everywhere, and I couldn’t make out what they were saying, but even if I could’ve heard them, they were speaking in Spanish (which they often do). But I could see that a struggle was in process.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

Invader and Jovica were shoving each other. It seemed as though Invader was attempting to leave, and Jovica was trying to stop him. Brody was still on the floor. The doctor was working furiously to do what he could to help him. A call went out for an ambulance. It seemed like an eternity before aid arrived. And they didn’t even get the call through official channels.

Victor Quinones called a local radio station and told them to broadcast that an ambulance was needed immediately at the stadium. A paramedic crew was eating at a nearby McDonald’s and heard the request on the radio.

Brody, by the time paramedics had arrived, had lain there for over 25 minutes. Atlas was in a state of shock, as were the rest of us. While the paramedics were preparing Bruiser to take him to the emergency room, I witnessed Invader leave the shower, walk around the feet of Brody, grab his car keys, and leave.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

Finally, after what had seemed like an eternity, Brody was loaded onto a gurney to be taken out. Brody, by this time, had been down at least 40 minutes.

The paramedics couldn’t lift him. I saw Tony Atlas, almost by himself, carry Brody up four or five steps and transport him to the ambulance. Tony went with Brody to the hospital.

At this point, nobody knew what to say or even what had happened. But I knew enough to stand back and observe the situation. Puerto Ricans basically didn’t like the American boys coming down there and taking the money that they felt was rightfully theirs. And since I was in the dark as to what happened, I was watching to see what would happen next.

Scott Hall and Bruiser Brody Wrestling superstars Pro wrestling

Chris Youngblood told me that Invader had approached Brody and requested that he accompany him to the shower to talk business. He said that Invader’s hand was covered with a towel.

Then he said he heard screaming and a commotion inside the shower and then seeing Brody stumble through the door holding his chest. Brody went down; he didn’t collapse but went down under his own control. That was just before I got back into the room.BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed ---- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

 

The guys in the other dressing room knew that something had happened, but were kept in the dark as to what it was. Alas, by this time, had returned to the stadium, and he kept saying that Brody was going to die. I told Tony to stop saying that, but Tony, by this time, was out of control completely. The whole situation was out of control.

Some Police Officers entered the room, and Tony began to tell them what happened, but they couldn’t understand English. The strange thing about it though was they didn’t take it seriously.

They would smile and mutter to each other because they just thought it was another wild PR angle.

Time moved slow. Atlas was screaming by now. He was screaming at the cops who weren’t understanding a thing he was saying. He tried to enlist an interpreter to tell them what happened.

And then Invader reappeared.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed ---- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

Nobody knew where he had gone, but I surmised that he went home, because he came back with a different shirt on.

He came right back as though nothing had happened and started conducting business as usual. He completely ignored Atlas, who looked wild by now, Atlas pleaded with several PR boys to translate, but they’d look at Invader and walk away.

Finally, Roberto Soto said he’d interpret. It was to no avail. These cops grew up watching Carlos and Invader, so, to them, they were big stars, and they were just ordinary policemen.

I was on last that night, and Atlas, and I left the stadium and headed for the hospital that Brody had been taken to. El Medico Centro was the name of it, and somebody had told me that it was the best medical facility on the island.

As we were walking into the hospital, I met the surgeon who had already operated on Brody. I asked him about Brody’s status, and he just looked at me and said it was touch and go.

Brody never left the operating room.BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

They actually performed two surgeries that night. I always believed that if Brody had been in an American hospital, he would still be alive.

What Brody actually died from was a loss of blood. He literally bled to death on the table during the second operation.

When I got back to my hotel room, I told the desk clerk that if any calls came in for Brody, direct them to my room.

I couldn’t sleep.

I was staying with one of the midgets, the Irish Leprechaun. The phone rang. The little guy answered the phone and told me it was Brody’s wife. I looked at my watch. It was 5:00 AM. How would I say this without causing undue panic? I calmly explained to her that Frank had been in an accident, and she should get to PR as quickly as she could. I told her that it was serious, but I thought he’d be alright. I hung up the phone.

Again, I looked at my watch. It was 5:20 AM.

Brody dies at 5:40 AM.

After the call, I could not sleep. I tossed and turned and finally just got up.

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I went down to the front desk around 7:30 AM, and the girl on duty was an American from Chicago who spoke Spanish. I asked her to call the hospital and find out what room Brody was in. That’s when I found out he was dead.

No words can describe how I felt. The girl at the desk got tears in her eyes. She told me that she was sorry. I just went outside the hotel and sat down for a while. How could this happen?

While I was sitting there, Buddy Landell came over and asked how Brody was. It was all I could do to tell him, and he said cut the BS. I guess he could tell by the look in my eye that I wasn’t kidding.

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We were supposed to go to Mayaguez that afternoon, but I never even packed my bag. I knew that I wasn’t going. Miguelito Perez came to pick me up, but when I told him the news, he refused to go too. Most of the PR guys didn’t hear the news until they got to town that afternoon. But after they heard of Brody’s death, they refused to go to the ring. I heard that it was a sold-out $25,000 house. They sent the fans home telling them that they could use the tickets next week. I don’t believe they told them the real reason why.

Later that afternoon, we were all in Atlas’ room.

Present at the time was Atlas, myself, Spivey, Jaggers, Ron Starr, and Dan Kroffat. I had been waiting all day for somebody to contact me. But nothing seemed to be happening. I learned later that the WWC office was stonewalling information on the wrestlers’ whereabouts.

Atlas stated that we had to tell somebody. I then remembered the names of the detectives that the girl at the desk had given me when she made the call to the hospital that morning. Orlando Figueroa, Pedro Clanero, and Hector Quinones.
Atlas talked to one of the detectives on the phone and told him where we were. The detectives said that they’d be right over, and they were in about ten minutes.

They came into the room, asked a few questions, and then transported Atlas to Headquarters. Tony left the hotel around 5:00 PM. He did not return until 10:00 PM. I started to get worried about him, but when he came back, he told them that they wanted to talk to me. Of course, I agreed.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

The station looked like something you’d expect to find in El Salvador, hot and stinking, with no air conditioning and a big overhead fan. I told them what I had seen, and afterward signed a sworn deposition as to my testimony. I could only swear as to what I actually saw, but I did my part.

As I was leaving, I saw TNT and Miguelito Perez there. I didn’t ask them any questions, and they did not ask me any, either. So, I don’t know what their statements said. I was told by the detectives that José González would be charged with first-degree murder and advised me that when the time for the trial came, I would be subpoenaed and transported back to PR to testify. They told me that airfare and hotel would be arranged for me and that security would be provided.

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That’s what they said. However, that’s not what they did.

I was depressed when I left PR and even more so when I got back to Birmingham. If you’ve ever been to Birmingham, you’d know what I mean. I told my wife in detail everything that had happened. She told me that nothing would be done to José González. I got mad at her. How could something not be done? I told her to wait and see.
I waited, and I saw that she was right.

I got two separate subpoenas for the trial. The first trial date was postponed. The second trial was scheduled for January 23-26, 1989. I still have my subpoena. It was issued 1/3/89, but according to the post date, it was not mailed until 1/13/89. That meant that it laid on somebody’s desk for a full ten days. Remember, the trial was to start on January 23rd? I received the subpoena on January 24th. I had already heard the verdict by the time I opened the subpoena.

I never heard from the detectives again, not even to this day.”

We had the opportunity to interview Savio Vega back in October 2015, where he opened up about being a witness to the murder of Bruiser Brody. Savio shared chilling details of what he saw and how he was approached by Brody’s killer José González in the bathroom after the trial. To hear Savio’s take, listen below (skip ahead to the 18 minute, 53-second mark):

Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser BrodyScott Hall

“I remember the first time I ever got hit by a folding metal chair was by Bruiser Brody in Kansas City.

It was actually Mr. Pogo and me against Brody. So Brody comes in the locker room, and he looks at me – and I’m huge, you know? – and he goes, ‘I can have a good singles match with you – what are we having a handicap for?’
And I’m going, ‘I don’t know Mr. Brody, uh, I don’t have anything to do with the booking…’

Scott Hall and BRUISER BRODY

So we’re having our little match, and Brody is over like crazy – everywhere he went, particularly over in Kansas City. So we’re out fighting on the floor, and he picks up a chair…and he holds it [up] for a second…and I’m like, ‘Huh..?’
And he just waffled me with it.

Later on, he went, ‘Hey kid…[next time] turn and give me your back, or you know, put your hands up…’

I was so green. I’d never been hit before by a chair, so I didn’t know what to do…”

 

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BRUISER BRODY stabbed and killed: Details on his Murder —- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser BrodyJuly 17th, 1988, marks the anniversary of the death of Frank Goodish, a man better known to fans as Bruiser Brody. For years, controversy surrounded his murder.

 

With stories from the likes of Dutch Mantel and Savio Vega, both who were present during the time of Brody’s stabbing, it’s hard not to ask: was his murder a cover-up? We look closely into this while also celebrating his influence on professional wrestling.

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Was the Death Bruiser Brody a Cover-up?

Dutch Mantel, who was at the scene, writes what he saw that day:

“It is already known that José González was the man that stabbed and killed Bruiser Brody.

He pleaded self-defense, and partly due to a weak justice system in Puerto Rico, and partly due to the fact that nobody was at González’ trial on behalf of Brody, González was acquitted.BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

 

The controversy surrounds why the men that were subpoenaed never got to Puerto Rico to testify. Yes, it is true that certain wrestlers would not talk. But there were many who were very willing to talk.

Unfortunately, they never got their chance.

I arrived in Puerto Rico for a two-day run on a Saturday afternoon. After deplaning and collecting my bags, I made my way to the Lagoon el Canario, where I would be staying. The El Canario was a great hotel by Puerto Rican standards because they had cable with a remote and in-room air conditioning. That’s almost a luxury.

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I met Bruiser in the lobby of the hotel, where we were also to meet [Tony] Atlas. Bruiser told me that Tony had arranged a ride for the three of us with a guy who operated a local gym and who was a big wrestling fan.

After a few minutes, Atlas arrived, and we departed for Bayamon Loubriel Stadium around 6:00 PM. The trip takes about 20 minutes, so we were very early for the show.

Everything was fine; just small talk made in the car on the way over. We collected our bags from the trunk upon arrival, and entered the stadium,

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

headed for the dressing room. But, as we entered the dressing area, I felt tension in the air. I always felt tension in the air there, as it’s an extremely dangerous place to work. But that night it was really heavy. Don’t ask me why. I don’t even know. I just felt it.

As I entered, I was following Bruiser, and I noticed Carlos [Colon] and Invader [José González] sitting on a bench to my right. Invader was trying on his leather strap – that he wears on his arm – with his teeth. Neither spoke.

Thinking back on it now, I don’t believe any acknowledgment was made to Brody either. I followed Brody to the rear of the room, directly in front of the shower door.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

There were other guys who were already there. The Youngbloods, TNT, Roberto Soto, and Castillo Jr. were in various stages of unpacking and getting ready.

I have always hated the dressing rooms, so I sat down briefly and, still feeling uneasy about the tension that I felt, decided to go check the crowd. The is a ritual with me; I always check out the crowd or arena when I get there just to familiarize myself with it.

Bayamon Stadium is a baseball stadium, so I arose from my chair and headed through a tunnel to get to the field. It’s only about 100 feet through the tunnel, and I stood, watching the crowd file in for no more than three minutes, and I had not been gone from the dressing room longer than 5 or 6 minutes, at the most.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

But when I returned, my eyes met horror.

The whole dressing room was chaotic. The first person I saw was Chris Youngblood. I asked him what had happened. He was almost hysterical as he said, ‘José stabbed Brody.’

I still did not know what he meant, but as I looked deeper in the room, I saw Brody lying prone on the floor with several guys surrounding him. I thought that some guy named José had rushed into the room and attacked Brody. Everybody in PR is named José, so I looked at Chris again, and he said, ‘Invader – Invader stabbed Brody.’

 

It was bedlam in the dressing room. Now, everything started to move in slow motion. I remember walking over to where Brody was lying and just staring in disbelief. A doctor is always present in San Juan, and he was crying. Brody was conscious, and as I looked closer, I could see a stab wound about an inch long and deep with air bubbles escaping from it.

Much later, the doctor told me that meant that the blade had pierced the lung.

Brody was telling promoter Carlos Colon to take care of his family.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

I didn’t see a lot of blood, but, again, later, I learned that he was hemorrhaging internally.

I believe that Bruiser Brody knew he was going to die.

This can’t be happening, I thought to myself. This can’t be real. But real it was. I am not a very religious person, but I eased over in a corner out of everyone’s way and prayed for Bruiser. I then found myself looking through a plexiglass door which led into the shower.

The door was kind of translucent plexiglass that distorted images somewhat, but I saw the Invader and Victor Jovica screaming at each other in the shower room. Noise was everywhere, and I couldn’t make out what they were saying, but even if I could’ve heard them, they were speaking in Spanish (which they often do). But I could see that a struggle was in process.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

Invader and Jovica were shoving each other. It seemed as though Invader was attempting to leave, and Jovica was trying to stop him. Brody was still on the floor. The doctor was working furiously to do what he could to help him. A call went out for an ambulance. It seemed like an eternity before aid arrived. And they didn’t even get the call through official channels.

Victor Quinones called a local radio station and told them to broadcast that an ambulance was needed immediately at the stadium. A paramedic crew was eating at a nearby McDonald’s and heard the request on the radio.

Brody, by the time paramedics had arrived, had lain there for over 25 minutes. Atlas was in a state of shock, as were the rest of us. While the paramedics were preparing Bruiser to take him to the emergency room, I witnessed Invader leave the shower, walk around the feet of Brody, grab his car keys, and leave.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

Finally, after what had seemed like an eternity, Brody was loaded onto a gurney to be taken out. Brody, by this time, had been down at least 40 minutes.

The paramedics couldn’t lift him. I saw Tony Atlas, almost by himself, carry Brody up four or five steps and transport him to the ambulance. Tony went with Brody to the hospital.

At this point, nobody knew what to say or even what had happened. But I knew enough to stand back and observe the situation. Puerto Ricans basically didn’t like the American boys coming down there and taking the money that they felt was rightfully theirs. And since I was in the dark as to what happened, I was watching to see what would happen next.

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Chris Youngblood told me that Invader had approached Brody and requested that he accompany him to the shower to talk business. He said that Invader’s hand was covered with a towel.

Then he said he heard screaming and a commotion inside the shower and then seeing Brody stumble through the door holding his chest. Brody went down; he didn’t collapse but went down under his own control. That was just before I got back into the room.BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed ---- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

 

The guys in the other dressing room knew that something had happened, but were kept in the dark as to what it was. Alas, by this time, had returned to the stadium, and he kept saying that Brody was going to die. I told Tony to stop saying that, but Tony, by this time, was out of control completely. The whole situation was out of control.

Some Police Officers entered the room, and Tony began to tell them what happened, but they couldn’t understand English. The strange thing about it though was they didn’t take it seriously.

They would smile and mutter to each other because they just thought it was another wild PR angle.

Time moved slow. Atlas was screaming by now. He was screaming at the cops who weren’t understanding a thing he was saying. He tried to enlist an interpreter to tell them what happened.

And then Invader reappeared.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed ---- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

Nobody knew where he had gone, but I surmised that he went home, because he came back with a different shirt on.

He came right back as though nothing had happened and started conducting business as usual. He completely ignored Atlas, who looked wild by now, Atlas pleaded with several PR boys to translate, but they’d look at Invader and walk away.

Finally, Roberto Soto said he’d interpret. It was to no avail. These cops grew up watching Carlos and Invader, so, to them, they were big stars, and they were just ordinary policemen.

I was on last that night, and Atlas, and I left the stadium and headed for the hospital that Brody had been taken to. El Medico Centro was the name of it, and somebody had told me that it was the best medical facility on the island.

As we were walking into the hospital, I met the surgeon who had already operated on Brody. I asked him about Brody’s status, and he just looked at me and said it was touch and go.

Brody never left the operating room.BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

They actually performed two surgeries that night. I always believed that if Brody had been in an American hospital, he would still be alive.

What Brody actually died from was a loss of blood. He literally bled to death on the table during the second operation.

When I got back to my hotel room, I told the desk clerk that if any calls came in for Brody, direct them to my room.

I couldn’t sleep.

I was staying with one of the midgets, the Irish Leprechaun. The phone rang. The little guy answered the phone and told me it was Brody’s wife. I looked at my watch. It was 5:00 AM. How would I say this without causing undue panic? I calmly explained to her that Frank had been in an accident, and she should get to PR as quickly as she could. I told her that it was serious, but I thought he’d be alright. I hung up the phone.

Again, I looked at my watch. It was 5:20 AM.

Brody dies at 5:40 AM.

After the call, I could not sleep. I tossed and turned and finally just got up.

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I went down to the front desk around 7:30 AM, and the girl on duty was an American from Chicago who spoke Spanish. I asked her to call the hospital and find out what room Brody was in. That’s when I found out he was dead.

No words can describe how I felt. The girl at the desk got tears in her eyes. She told me that she was sorry. I just went outside the hotel and sat down for a while. How could this happen?

While I was sitting there, Buddy Landell came over and asked how Brody was. It was all I could do to tell him, and he said cut the BS. I guess he could tell by the look in my eye that I wasn’t kidding.

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We were supposed to go to Mayaguez that afternoon, but I never even packed my bag. I knew that I wasn’t going. Miguelito Perez came to pick me up, but when I told him the news, he refused to go too. Most of the PR guys didn’t hear the news until they got to town that afternoon. But after they heard of Brody’s death, they refused to go to the ring. I heard that it was a sold-out $25,000 house. They sent the fans home telling them that they could use the tickets next week. I don’t believe they told them the real reason why.

Later that afternoon, we were all in Atlas’ room.

Present at the time was Atlas, myself, Spivey, Jaggers, Ron Starr, and Dan Kroffat. I had been waiting all day for somebody to contact me. But nothing seemed to be happening. I learned later that the WWC office was stonewalling information on the wrestlers’ whereabouts.

Atlas stated that we had to tell somebody. I then remembered the names of the detectives that the girl at the desk had given me when she made the call to the hospital that morning. Orlando Figueroa, Pedro Clanero, and Hector Quinones.
Atlas talked to one of the detectives on the phone and told him where we were. The detectives said that they’d be right over, and they were in about ten minutes.

They came into the room, asked a few questions, and then transported Atlas to Headquarters. Tony left the hotel around 5:00 PM. He did not return until 10:00 PM. I started to get worried about him, but when he came back, he told them that they wanted to talk to me. Of course, I agreed.

BRUISER BRODY: Details on his Murder after he was stabbed and killed -- Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser Brody

The station looked like something you’d expect to find in El Salvador, hot and stinking, with no air conditioning and a big overhead fan. I told them what I had seen, and afterward signed a sworn deposition as to my testimony. I could only swear as to what I actually saw, but I did my part.

As I was leaving, I saw TNT and Miguelito Perez there. I didn’t ask them any questions, and they did not ask me any, either. So, I don’t know what their statements said. I was told by the detectives that José González would be charged with first-degree murder and advised me that when the time for the trial came, I would be subpoenaed and transported back to PR to testify. They told me that airfare and hotel would be arranged for me and that security would be provided.

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That’s what they said. However, that’s not what they did.

I was depressed when I left PR and even more so when I got back to Birmingham. If you’ve ever been to Birmingham, you’d know what I mean. I told my wife in detail everything that had happened. She told me that nothing would be done to José González. I got mad at her. How could something not be done? I told her to wait and see.
I waited, and I saw that she was right.

I got two separate subpoenas for the trial. The first trial date was postponed. The second trial was scheduled for January 23-26, 1989. I still have my subpoena. It was issued 1/3/89, but according to the post date, it was not mailed until 1/13/89. That meant that it laid on somebody’s desk for a full ten days. Remember, the trial was to start on January 23rd? I received the subpoena on January 24th. I had already heard the verdict by the time I opened the subpoena.

I never heard from the detectives again, not even to this day.”

We had the opportunity to interview Savio Vega back in October 2015, where he opened up about being a witness to the murder of Bruiser Brody. Savio shared chilling details of what he saw and how he was approached by Brody’s killer José González in the bathroom after the trial. To hear Savio’s take, listen below (skip ahead to the 18 minute, 53-second mark):

Scott Hall Tells of Learning the Hard Way from Bruiser BrodyScott Hall

“I remember the first time I ever got hit by a folding metal chair was by Bruiser Brody in Kansas City.

It was actually Mr. Pogo and me against Brody. So Brody comes in the locker room, and he looks at me – and I’m huge, you know? – and he goes, ‘I can have a good singles match with you – what are we having a handicap for?’
And I’m going, ‘I don’t know Mr. Brody, uh, I don’t have anything to do with the booking…’

Scott Hall and BRUISER BRODY

So we’re having our little match, and Brody is over like crazy – everywhere he went, particularly over in Kansas City. So we’re out fighting on the floor, and he picks up a chair…and he holds it [up] for a second…and I’m like, ‘Huh..?’
And he just waffled me with it.

Later on, he went, ‘Hey kid…[next time] turn and give me your back, or you know, put your hands up…’

I was so green. I’d never been hit before by a chair, so I didn’t know what to do…”

 

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Ronnie Garvin says Dusty Rhodes Was Overrated… says “Dusty Rhodes didn’t draw the big of money”

Ronnie Garvin and Dusty RhodesSpeaking on a recent episode of “Under the Mat Radio,” former NWA World Heavyweight Champion Ronnie Garvin talked about several professional wrestling topics. Garvin talked about thinking that the Dusty Rhodes was “overrated,” and not going crazy after winning the World Championship.

 

The name Dusty Rhodes carries a lot of weight in the professional wrestling industry. Dusty was a famous professional wrestler in the NWA, and wrestled with the top wrestlers of the world in the past. He was a creative wrestler, but wasn’t known for his in-ring ability.

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He was popular because he was good at storytelling. When he retired from in-ring competition he started working for various wrestling promotion as a booker and creative head.

He also worked with NXT. Ronnie Garvin, a former NWA wrestler, thinks that Rhodes doesn’t deserve the praise that he gets and that he is super overrated.

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Here are the highlights:

Thinking Dusty Rhodes was “overrated”: “Dusty Rhodes was overrated. He was the booker most places he went, Florida, Carolinas,” said Garvin. “I didn’t like what he did a lot of times.

Garvin states that Rhodes used to put himself in places where he didn’t belong and failed to get big money for the promotions that he worked at. “A lot of politics, he put himself in places he should’ve been, he didn’t draw the big of money,” stated Garvin.

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“When he was in the main event, he booked 30 men on the card and had more gimmick matches”.

He also mentioned that Rhodes wanted to be at the center of the spotlight so badly that he undermined other wrestlers such as the Rock n’ Roll Express by booking them to wrestle at smaller venues and towns.

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The Rock n’ Roll Express were so over with the fans at that time that they could sell out any place that they worked at.

“When he was in the main event, he booked 30 men on the card and had more gimmick matches. Rock n’ Roll Express, those kids were so over.

So over, that they would sell out and Dusty Rhodes would book them in small towns because he didn’t want them on the same card as him because he wanted the thunder.”

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Not going crazy after winning the World Championship: “You know I’ve had a lot of title matches, I don’t want to diminish the World Title, it was great,” said Garvin. “But I guess with luck and staying healthy long enough, I got to the very top.

To me, and I’m being honest, wrestling was a job, pure and simple. I didn’t go crazy because I was the world champion. I’ll tell you, the World Title is probably the most money I made in a short period of time.”

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NWA NEWS: Ronnie Garvin says Dusty Rhodes Was Overrated… says “Dusty Rhodes didn’t draw the big of money”

Ronnie Garvin and Dusty RhodesSpeaking on a recent episode of “Under the Mat Radio,” former NWA World Heavyweight Champion Ronnie Garvin talked about several professional wrestling topics. Garvin talked about thinking that the Dusty Rhodes was “overrated,” and not going crazy after winning the World Championship.

 

The name Dusty Rhodes carries a lot of weight in the professional wrestling industry. Dusty was a famous professional wrestler in the NWA, and wrestled with the top wrestlers of the world in the past. He was a creative wrestler, but wasn’t known for his in-ring ability.

Dusty Rhodes NWA WWE

He was popular because he was good at storytelling. When he retired from in-ring competition he started working for various wrestling promotion as a booker and creative head.

He also worked with NXT. Ronnie Garvin, a former NWA wrestler, thinks that Rhodes doesn’t deserve the praise that he gets and that he is super overrated.

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Here are the highlights:

Thinking Dusty Rhodes was “overrated”: “Dusty Rhodes was overrated. He was the booker most places he went, Florida, Carolinas,” said Garvin. “I didn’t like what he did a lot of times.

Garvin states that Rhodes used to put himself in places where he didn’t belong and failed to get big money for the promotions that he worked at. “A lot of politics, he put himself in places he should’ve been, he didn’t draw the big of money,” stated Garvin.

Ronnie Garvin

“When he was in the main event, he booked 30 men on the card and had more gimmick matches”.

He also mentioned that Rhodes wanted to be at the center of the spotlight so badly that he undermined other wrestlers such as the Rock n’ Roll Express by booking them to wrestle at smaller venues and towns.

The American Dream Dusty Rhodes

The Rock n’ Roll Express were so over with the fans at that time that they could sell out any place that they worked at.

“When he was in the main event, he booked 30 men on the card and had more gimmick matches. Rock n’ Roll Express, those kids were so over.

So over, that they would sell out and Dusty Rhodes would book them in small towns because he didn’t want them on the same card as him because he wanted the thunder.”

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Not going crazy after winning the World Championship: “You know I’ve had a lot of title matches, I don’t want to diminish the World Title, it was great,” said Garvin. “But I guess with luck and staying healthy long enough, I got to the very top.

To me, and I’m being honest, wrestling was a job, pure and simple. I didn’t go crazy because I was the world champion. I’ll tell you, the World Title is probably the most money I made in a short period of time.”

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Chris Benoit’s son announces official name for pro wrestling career — David Benoit building his own legacy

David Benoit and Chris BenoitWe’ve heard so much about second and third generation wrestlers that it’s become the norm to see someone with ties to a previous favorite of ours step into the squared circle.

 

Most, like Charlotte Flair, Natalya, and Davey Smith JR. pay homage to their parents with their entrances, ring attire, styles, or work on the mic. There’s a thousand different ways they do it, and often without us connecting the dots unless it’s obvious, like Flair and Natalya.

Others seek to do just that. In that group we find Chris Benoit’s son. David Benoit wants to wrestle as Chris Benoit Jr.. He even said he has his gear made and ready to go.

David Benoit, son of Chris Benoit

In an interview with Chris Van Vliet, David was open about the tragedy surrounding his father’s death, and explained how he only started watching professional wrestling when AEW (All Elite Wrestling) started. It helped ignite a spark within him, and he decided to follow in his father’s footsteps and become a professional wrestler, too.

The big moment came when he announced he would wrestle as Chris Benoit Jr.

“I don’t own [the rights to] his name yet. I have his middle name I can legally use it and they can’t come after me. Yeah [I would wrestle as Chris Benoit, Jr] I think it would be cool. I’ve got the tights with the claw.”

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He said he’ll even come out to Chris Benoit’s entrance music. He’s been taking with Our Lady Of Peace about it.

Where will he wrestle?

While this is getting ahead of ourselves as the 27 year old is still training (reportedly with the Harts and Lance Storm), he knows where he’d like to go.

He said he’d watch Natalya’s matches and Chris Jericho based segments, but WWE didn’t intrigue him. Once more from Ringsidenews: “They weren’t producing good things anymore. I saw the quality was going down, down, down, down.”

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With WWE out of the equation for the moment, he’s stated he’d like to wrestler for AEW and/or NJPW (New Japan Pro Wrestling).

Long shadow, big shoes

No matter how you look at it, David has a long and difficult road ahead of him, thanks to the father he wishes to pay homage to.

Chris Benoit was many things. He was credited as the hardest worker of his time. He was an incredible talent and superstar that paid his dues and climbed the ladder. He was an inspiration to many small to medium sized people that wanted to wrestle with the giants.

Chris Benoit Tragedy From Kevin Sullivan

He also murdered his other son and wife, Nancy Benoit (Known as Woman during her time in professional wrestling) before committing suicide.

Whenever anyone mentions him, that’s the only thing they remember, and for good reason. We tend to remember the horrific and shocking while forget the good. It’s only natural.

Unfortunately, it’s often left out of the conversation that Chris faced many demons, including possible depression (as many have stated with his change of attitude), brain damage (a study claims his brain had suffered the equivalent of an 87-year-old dementia patient(, and possible steroids and other drugs.

Chris Benoit son

Any number of those, if true, would create a deadly cocktail.

His brilliant, Hall of Fame bound career was derailed and is largely ignored because of those final acts, and understandable so. Because of his actions, attention was brought to head injuries in contact sports aside from boxing and has led to greater research and protections and has probably saved a good number of lives.

While Chris Benoit’s shoes are indeed huge to fill, It’s good to hear his son talk about not trying to fill them or be a carbon copy of his father in the ring.

Chris Benoit, his son and wife

Carving his own legacy

David Benoit wants to carve his own legacy, and that’s what’s really awesome about him doing this. He’s wants to pay homage like others have their parents before, and he seems to have a clear vision of what that entails.

It’s going to be a difficult road for him as many fans online have already stated his career is over because of his choice of names, but he appears undaunted.

I wish him the best of luck going forward. With any luck, we may be cheering for a Benoit once more.